Start with No: The Negotiating Tools That the Pros Don't Want You to Know

by Jim Camp

Book Overview

Start with No offers a contrarian, counterintuitive system for negotiating any kind of deal in any kind of situation--the purchase of a new house, a multimillion-dollar business deal, or where to take... This description may be from another edition of this product.

• Format: Hardcover
• Language: English
• ISBN: 0609608002
• ISBN13: 9780609608005
• Release Date: July 2002
• Publisher: Crown Currency
• Length: 288 Pages
• Weight: 0.95 lbs.
• Dimensions: 1.1" x 5.9" x 8.6"

Customer Reviews

Camp Changed My Life

I picked up "Getting to Yes" in my first year of law school -- and quickly got tired of getting my rear handed to me every time I entered a negotiation. But I never found anything better until I picked up this book. Contrary to the folk wisdom that had been passed down to me, you don't have to be a tough, table-pounding, take-no-prisoners jerk to win a negotiation. Camp's style is unfailingly helpful and polite -- I could see my mother doing it -- but at the same time tough as nails. (Perhaps this explains why my mother always gets her way....) And although Camp (quite justifiably) spends a lot of time bashing "Getting to Yes," his style also looks for creative resolutions and synergies when they can be found. I just got through a particularly tough negotiation with my mission and purpose intact, giving my adversary the opportunity to say no at every turn, and I've never felt better. Thanks, Jim!

It has worked for me.

Hello all, two years ago I decided to start my own business. The result so far has been nothing at all. In spite of having many ideas somehow I haven't been able to get to the end of any. All the times I have negotiated I have done feeling a big necessity to receive a yes and I have reached very bad agreements resulting in people not taking me seriously. I just didn't have the slightest clue at managing negotiations: What to expect, how to act, how to ask for what I want,... Today I had my first negotiation after reading this wonderful book. What a difference. I didn't feel any necessity cause I know there are more companies that would be interested. I had on paper a list of the things I wanted to received from the other company. I was willing to receive a NO or to say it. Result: Instead of just talking and getting nowhere (like always so far) the guy has accepted my petitions and I am moving on with the project. What a difference!!! I feel that now I have tools at negotiating. I don't feel lost or fearful. I know how to act and ask for what I want. Thanks Jim Camp for this book. (sorry for my english which limits how I can explain myself).

A real eye-opener for anyone negotiating anything

I was VERY impressed with Jim Camp's "Start with No." In under 300 pages, the author gets his point across succinctly and powerfully; negotiations don't begin with "Yes" (which might even be a lie) or "Maybe" which is worse than useless. They begin with "No" and giving permission for the other party to say "no."The brilliance of the "no" can be the important "way out" in a negotiation, where one party is offered a graceful exit to avoid the sense of feeling trapped or tricked. And it's also the path to finding out what they really need or really can accept. But it's much more than that. Camp informs the reader that previous theories of negotiation such as "Win-Win" are pure bunkum; in negotiation, sometimes someone wins and someone else loses. But the long-term outcome may be quite different--what might have been compromised into a mediocre solution by win-win can often be better for both parties when one loses at the outset. Case in point; a contract is drawn up with terms that one party can no longer fulfill. It's time to renegotiate the contract despite the terms and conditions. Why? What if the contract specified that a vendor sell at a price that would drive them out of business? If the buyer NEEDS that product, they'd better negotiate rather than fail to receive the product. Going elsewhere to find it could be more costly than the re-negotiated price. Camp's experiences are in direct contrast to some of business guru Stephen Covey's "Seven Habits of Highly Successful People", which I thought was quite interesting. To remind you, the habits are:1- Be Proactive2- Begin with the End in Mind3- Put First Things First4- Think Win/Win5- Seek First to Understand, Then to Be Understood6- Synergize7- Sharpen the SawMr. Camp actually has no issue with the majority of these habits, but he disagrees vehemently with two of the seven principles: #2--begin with the end in mind, and #4 Think Win/Win. In the case of negotiation, sometimes, Mr. Camp informs us, it's better not be so focused on the goal i.e, getting the lowest price, making that sales quota for that month) lest you appear needy. What's more, being too focused on your own goal might cause you to make dangerous assumptions or fail to realize the underlying situation. And Camp scoffs at the idea of win-win, giving the reader plenty of real-life examples where losing either was just that...losing, or was a neutral outcome (no win, but better than other potentially worse outcomes.) I recommend this book to anyone getting ready to negotiate nearly anything, from extended bedtimes for your kids, to a refinanced mortgage to a multi-million dollar deal. Excellent material here from this experienced contrarian.

doormats, sensitive people...we need this

finally, a book that tells you how to not get the short end of the stick. there is no hype in this book. this book is an instruction manual describing, in very clear detail, how to be in control of any negotiation. that means, anything from negotiating with a difficult teenager to brokering a million dollar deal. this info really opened my eyes; I'm not a complete pushover, but I'm not some pit bull. i've always shyed away from sales and negotiation because i felt my empathy for others was a weakness. WRONG! this book isn't about being an a-hole, being rude, or being fake. it's about taking your empathy as a strength, of being clever in an elegant way. there are such detailed instructions and examples, i can't see why you can't lift these examples and use them in your life. in fact, right after reading this book, i started using some of the example phrases, and found them very empowering. finally...the nice people can win and still remain the good guys.

How to Avoid Making Unnecessary Compromises

For various reasons, many people are convinced that any negotiation should be concluded on a win-win basis. That is, all who are directly involved walk away with something...or at least think they have. (Back to that point in a moment.) In this volume, Camp asserts that win-win is emotion-based, therefore unreliable and often self-defeating. He claims that the most effective negotiators take a decision-based approach which he explains step-by-step. "What is the poison that resides at the heart of the big lie which is win-win? You've heard of the deadly stuff. It's called [in italics] compromise....Why in the world compromise before you are certain you have to? Sometimes you do, and that's fine, but often you don't, and that's better. The key point is that with the win-win mindset, [in italics] you'll never know which it is."Here a brief excerpt from Richard Tedlow's The Watson Dynasty in which he discusses a sales strategy used effectively by Joseph Crane who, when National Cash Register's salespersons encountered arguments and objections for which they were unprepared, recommended this response: "Why, that's just the very reason you should have one!" Crane was a great salesman from whom Thomas H. Watson Sr. learned a great deal while employed by NCR. In this instance, as Tedlow explains, "A prospect has just advanced a reason why he should not buy a register. He encounters [in the response by the NCR salesperson] not hesitation, not argument, not refutation. Rather, he is told that his reason not to buy is actually the reverse of what he thought it was. Once again, the magic lay in putting the salesman on the same side of the customer. Crane put the customer in the position of arguing with himself while agreeing with the salesman." Perhaps Camp agrees with me that the single worst mistake in any negotiation, the single most common mistake, is to argue against yourself.According to Camp, there is a significant difference between perception and reality insofar as a win-win resolution is concerned. That is, if the other party walks away thinking that she or he has "won" something, fine. However, Camp insists, "win-win is often win-lose because it invites unnecessary compromise, because it is [in italics] emotion-based, not [in italics] decision-based, and because it plays to the heart, not to the head." He carefully organizes his material within 14 chapters which introduce, one by one, the principles and practices of his system. In the final chapter, Camp shares what he considers to be "Life's Greatest Lesson: The Only Assurance of Long Term Success" and then in his Conclusion, he offers 33 "rules to remember." I have previously reviewed several excellent books on the subject of negotiation, each of which (to varying degree) recommends a win-win approach. Obviously, Camp totally disagrees with that approach and explains why. It remains for each reader of this commentary to consider carefully all manner of values, mindsets, strategies, and tactics w